Facebook post — 11 December 2017

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Systemd is keeping some of RedHat's largest customers from upgrading their RHEL6 boxen to RHEL7.

I've spent over one person year fixing systemd, and I still do not understand it like good old sysvinit. Which is by design, because it is all binary, as opposed to sysv.

Some of my projects are behind by two calendar years because of systemd. Also, I had to ditch CentOS 7 and Fedora. With Ubuntu 16.04, the struggle isn't as intense as it is with the RedHat distros.

I wonder if anyone got fired for the hundreds of millions RedHat potentially lost in upgrade licenses. Not to mention the cost of all the additional support. All this to shave a few seconds from the boot times of servers that reboot but once an year (if that).

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Alastair Youngonce a year? hah. 13:22:13 up 1574 days, 40 min, 1 user, load average: 2.67, 2.66, 2.67 Hide
Pratul AgarwalSysV was beautiful and intuitive to understand. But it was limited in its own ways (number of services you could boot up or down). I don't think move to systemd is just for saving a few seconds, but also for restarting services safely and securely between reboots. But as they say "All road to hell are paved with good intentions". I really dislike systemd so far, its already become a pain to deal with. But I don't think its going anywhere, it is going to get integrated with SELinux. The only thing I dislike more than systemd is Ubuntu, so unstable for backends, front end is fine. Also "apt-get"
Alastair YoungAlastair Young · 8y · by authoronce a year? hah. 13:22:13 up 1574 days, 40 min, 1 user, load average: 2.67, 2.66, 2.67ReplyHide
Pratul AgarwalPratul Agarwal · 8y · by authorSysV was beautiful and intuitive to understand. But it was limited in its own ways (number of services you could boot up or down). I don't think move to systemd is just for saving a few seconds, but also for restarting services safely and securely between reboots. But as they say "All road to hell are paved with good intentions". I really dislike systemd so far, its already become a pain to deal with. But I don't think its going anywhere, it is going to get integrated with SELinux. The only thing I dislike more than systemd is Ubuntu, so unstable for backends,